Hilary is CEO of Hidden Door, a gaming startup that is using language models to create new types of play. Previously, Hilary was head of machine learning for Cloudera; the founder of independent research lab Fast Forward Labs; Chief Scientist of Bitly; and was a professor of computer science at Johnson & Wales. In this conversation, I spoke with Hilary Mason about how language models may change interactive experiences like games, finding new forms of playfulness, details of the enabling technology, emergent behavior -- and even the very nature of intelligence and consciousness. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/metaverse-radoff/support